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時 間 の 玩 家 Time Is Art In today’s world, depression seems to affect too many people. However, Sadhguru reminds us that as children, joy was our natural state. He discusses the sources of depression and dealing with it from the inside out. 当今这个社会，抑郁似乎影响了太多人了。然而，萨古鲁提醒我们，在我们小时候，快乐本是我们的自然状态。他讨论了抑郁的源头以及如何从内往外解决这个问题。 Question: I see it happening all around us that as we grow older, depression becomes a natural emotion within all of us, and takes a toll on human beings. How do we adjust to this situation which is inevitable and happening all the time? 问：我看见在我们的周边经常会发生这样的事：随着我们年龄越来越大，抑郁变成我们所有人自然的内在状态，并给人类带来巨大伤害。我们如何去适应这种不可避免、一直发生的情况呢？ Sadhguru: Once you declare that depression is a natural process, there is no way out. When you were a child, being joyful was natural to you, not being depressed. So do not declare that depression is natural. Depression means you are unable to maintain the exuberance of life in you. It happens even in your body. If you are depressed, even the physical body flops. Life within you is not exuberant – it has just gone down and lost its exuberance because you are not doing the right thing with it. You are imposing too much outside nonsense upon the inside. You have not done anything to keep your life energies high. Sadhguru（萨古鲁）：一旦你声称抑郁是一种自然的过程，那就没有出路了。当你还是孩子的时候，快乐对你来说是很自然的，而不是抑郁。所以不要声称抑郁是自然的。抑郁意味着你无法维持你内在生命的活力。它甚至发生在你身体中——如果你抑郁，甚至身体也会沉坠。你内在的生命不是充满活力的——它变得沉重，并失去了活力，因为你没有对它做正确的事。你给内在施加了太多外在的东西。你没下功夫让生命能量保持在高水平上。 The Source of Depression 抑郁的来源 Depression is a kind of agony. If you have become agony and not ecstasy, it is because a large part of your life energy is happening compulsively, not consciously. It is happening as a reaction to external situations. Once you are happening compulsively, becoming depressed is very normal, because external situations are never hundred percent in your control. There are so many things happening in the world; if you compulsively react, getting lost and becoming miserable is natural. The more exposed you are to life, the more miserable you will become. 抑郁是一种强烈的痛苦感。如果你变得痛苦不堪，而非狂喜，是因为你大部分的生命能量都是强迫性无意识地发生，而不是有意识地发生。它只是对外界情形的（无意识）反应。一旦你是强迫性的发生，变抑郁就很正常，因为外在的情形你是不可能百分百掌控的。世界上有那么多事情发生，如果你都是出于强迫性无意识地反应，迷失和痛苦就是自然之事。你经历的生活越多，就越变得痛苦。 Depression means you are unable to maintain the exuberance of life in you. 抑郁意味着你无法维持你内在生命的活力。 When people are unable to handle life outside, they try to curtail their life and withdraw. But even that goes out of control, doesn’t it? There is one part of you which is constantly seeking expansion – you want to constantly increase the boundaries and areas of your activity. There is another part of you which is getting depressed every time something does not go the way you think it should go. Getting depressed is subject to the non-fulfillment of your expectations. 当人们无法应对外在的生活时，他们就会试图退缩、削减自己的生活。但是即便这样也会失控，不是吗？你的一部分在不断寻求扩张——你想要持续扩大自己活动的范围和领域。而你的另一部分，一旦有事情不如愿时，就变得抑郁。变得抑郁是源于你的期望没有得到满足。 If the stock market gets depressed today, so many people will get depressed. Many of them may never have even touched that money, but every day they were watching the graphs rising and their mood was in ascendancy. Now they see the graph falling, so their mood is falling. It is just that what they expected to happen, did not happen. 如果今天股票市场大跳水，很多人会变得抑郁。很多人甚至都没有碰到那个钱，但是每一天他们看着这个图表指数上升时，他们的心情也会跟着上扬。现在他们看见这个图下降，所以他们的情心情也坠落。这只是因为他们所期望发生的，没有发生。 Fixing the Inside 修理内在 People can cause depression in their mood in so many ways. If you take away what they think is precious, they become depressed. The tragedy with a lot of people, especially in affluent societies, is that they have everything and yet they have nothing. Depression means somewhere, a certain hopelessness has set in. If you go to some very poor village in India, they are really impoverished, but you will see joyful faces because they have hope – it is going to be better tomorrow. In affluent societies that hope is gone. Depression has set in because everything that can be used externally has been fixed. There is food, there is housing, there is clothing, there is everything, but still there is something wrong. They just do not know what. 人们可以以如此多种方式来引发抑郁。如果你拿走他们所珍视的东西，他们会变得抑郁。很多人的悲剧在于——尤其是在富裕的社会里——他们拥有一切但又一无所有。抑郁症郁意味着，一种无望入驻了你内在某个地方。如果你去印度一些很穷的村庄，他们是真的贫穷，但是你可以看见他们快乐的笑脸，因为他们还有希望——明天会更好。在富裕的社会里，这种希望没了。抑郁会产生是因为外在能利用的一切都已经安顿好了，有吃、有住、有穿、有一切，但还是有某个地方有问题，他们只是不知道是什么出了问题。 A poor man may think, “Tomorrow, if I get a new pair of footwear, everything will be fine.” If he gets a new pair of footwear, he will walk like a king with great joy on his face because he has hope; the outside is not yet fixed. In affluent societies, the outside is fixed, but the inside is not fixed, so there is hopelessness and depression. 一个穷人也许会想，“明天，如果我得到一双新鞋子，一切都会变好的。”如果他得到一双新鞋子，他走路时会感觉自己像个国王，一脸喜悦，因为他有希望；虽然外在还没安顿好。在富裕社会，外在的一切都安顿好了，但是内在没有被安顿好，所以会有无助和抑郁。 As we work on the outside, we must also fix the inside. Then the world would be beautiful. What we call as a spiritual process is just this – not just fixing the objective aspect of your life but taking care of the subjectivity of who you are. If that is not taken care of, you will have everything, and you will have nothing. 当我们修复外在时，我们也要修复好内在。那时这个世界才会美好。我们所说的“灵性修行”就是指——不要只安顿你生命的客观部分，而是照顾好“你是谁”的主观部分。如果那个部分没有被照顾好，你会拥有一切，但仍然一无所有。 isha.sadhguru.org/in/en/wisdom/article/solution-for-depression-from-inside-out |
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